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Josh's avatar

There are some good observations here - the purity tests surely kept this from becoming a bigger movement - but there are a ton of problems with this piece.

First and foremost, it's just wrong that that the movement was on the doorstep of winning. The protests captured the world's attention but didn't get us to the brink of a ceasefire as Wayne claims. The link he provides as evidence is from 5 months after the period he is talking about and doesn't say what he claims it does.

Second, Wayne just ignores that we live in a time of complete and total surveillance thanks to social media. His claims at the movement was violent are based on a couple of people saying stupid things. There have been, and always will be, people saying stupid things in movements. The difference is that now anything said by any person in a movement can get seized upon and amplified by a movements opponents in a way that was never possible before. The kind of message discipline that is required to keep everyone in a large movement from saying something stupid that it's opponents can seize upon is frankly impossible.

It is also weird to hold up extinction rebellion - of which I am a fan - as a model of success. I'm not exactly sure what they've achieved. And Wayne doesn't bother to make a case.

Finally, I'm not sure how anyone can look at the unrelenting genocidal intentions of Israel and the United States, or the relentless push towards fascism in the first 2 months of the new Trump administration, and claim that the reason students are being disappeared right now is because of violent rhetoric. It seems infinitely more likely to me that the crackdown is happening because of the students' success - to make an example of them to terrify anyone from dissenting against anything Trump does - rather than their failures.

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Lois Hauger's avatar

Some of the points you make have some truth in them, but you are missing the fact that AIPAC and CUFI are culturally and politically ingrained. Some of the more derisive comments made by so-called pro Palestinian activists were controlled opposition. Now that trump is president, authoritarianism is the order of the day here in America, while mass genocide is STILL the order in Gaza. It seems you think the movement is over; It is not, but this administration is a danger to all activists. As a 59yr old vegan and pro-human rights, I won't give up on the Palestinians. Or Yemenis. You shouldn't either.

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