My children feel that all life is equal to human life. They protect insects, invertebrates and arachnids at all costs and become furious with those who do not. It's a difficult issue, in the society we live in.... My kids are frequently upset. We are following your mission from Australia. Keep going Wayne, you're our hero!!
Of course not. You live in an echo chamber, which is why you've been brainwashed into thinking committing crimes is ok. Because some convicted felon that happens to be a lawyer said so
He’s just a typical keyboard warrior defending cruelty, and making pathetic 100x over disproven arguments against kindness. Likely because he’s too idiotic to use his brain and can only follow along like a puppet and behave exactly how the money makers want him too. Not worth even responding to but I sometimes like to stomp on bugs …. Only the human kind of course.
Hey, if the animal rights movement "has become a joke" it is because of comments like yours and because the industries that exploit animals are fighting back by denigrating and trivialising animal rights and veganism with every statement they make.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then.... well, you know the rest. Just be a bit kinder, these people are the good ones, save your venom for the bad guys of the world.
yes we are laughing at dougy as he doesn't care to help these dogs. He's to enlightened by the fact that we trespassed. If trespassing is what needs to be done in order to save the dogs then that's what will be done. yes that's breaking the law like whoppie do.
That comment tells me you are very much anti animal rights. People who care about animals care about all species, even our own sometimes dodgy human species... Most animal rights activists are vegan fta and care about sentient life, whatever form it takes. We need more people like that in the world if we want it to be a kinder and cleaner planet for every'one'. Why are you here on this issue Dougy?
This is not an intelligent argument Doug, it is one that is dreged up add infinitum by people who can't be bothered to make any changes at all.. Of course it is not possible to live on this planet without inflicting some damage, but it is definitely possible to limit the amount of damage you inflict... There is a saying that there is no such thing as a free lunch, which is very true, but you can limit your damage on the menu..
only one delusional is yourself DOUGY. What a name dougy. How old are you dougy your comment is down right stupid like yourself. dumb people in the world today just stupid
The "way it used to be"? do you mean kicking down doors, going in at night, trashing labs? Those days have gone, along with the slap on the wrist by kindly judges. Inordinate prison sentences and laws that say an ARA is a terrorist, that's why those days are over.
Even when Direct Action is not successful in rescuing animals, it is successful in bringing awareness to the public, which was always the aim of the ALF et al. Shock tactics don't work so much these days, because being shocked every day at the mess the world is in means people are immune to it.
Are you being racist or self-loathing when you speak of "white grandmas chasing dogs"? That is a trivialisation of animal rescue, something those who exploit animals are very good at doing. How do you know who was a grandma, or a grandad? How do you know who they are? What makes you better than them? What do YOU do (other than criticise)?
Old people (of whom I suspect you are one), young people, all who were willing to get out of their comfort zone and go to Ridglan on Saturday, knowing they might face violence, should be applauded and thanked by those of us who did not. They are NOT the enemy.
do you think its right to keep beagles in a 2x4 cage for life and torchure them? what do you think would be a good solution to better their lives? do you care about the dogs?
Don't be silly, you stop the car and help the insect get to the other side... Just because you might accidentally injure or kill something that is too small or hidden to be seen, doesn't mean you should give up on everything.
Do you raise children to be as kind as they possibly can to all sentient life, or do you raise them to be kind only when it is convenient for them to be so?
Intelligent people have a balanced perspective; those who at least try to see the smaller picture, whilst being aware of the bigger one.
Dougy, Thanks for your concern about bugs. Larger mammals including us humans may unknowingly kill bugs just by moving around, but if we respect all life, we don’t knowingly do harm.
You (at best) are asserting that because a method has not been applied thoroughly and consistently, everywhere all the time, the method is itself suspect or even a failure. I would say that several practitioners of Animal Liberation see Wayne's work as a beginning on one front, that of wide, public acknowledgment, hope and engagement. His efforts make no claim of being the ultimate accomplishment.
BULLSHIT. LETS DO TESTING THEN ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY..SO IGNORANT YOU ARE AND ITS SAD THAT YOU BELIEVE AN ANIMAL, A DOG,.A CAT, ANY ANIMAL SHOULD BE USED TO TEST ON, ABUSED.AND TORTURED.?, JUST SO YOU MAY HAVE A MEDICINE ONE DAY TO CURE YOUR DISEASE?
Why do you read his writing if you consider him an "idiot"? Appears you are an angry person who spits out bile. Why not spend your energy on something that you find worthwhile
You at best are asserting that because Wayne's method has not been applied everywhere all the time, his method is false and is a failure. Most Animal Liberationists, not as you portray them, wd acknowledge his work is just a beginning, succeeding on one important front, wide public acknowledgment, hope and engagement. This is a very large Cosmos we live in, by far surpassing Genesis 9:2 and 9:3. There is no reason to dismiss the change Wayne has made already in this human world and the larger Cosmos.
I have save many insects and animals. From snails and ants to squarrells, both a lizard and a mouse right out of a stray cats mouth. I rescued a snail from a little boy, pulling eyes off a snail, then gave him a lesson on snails lives and all life. He sat there he listened we talked for about a half an hour. And he apologized and then I heard him later telling other kids not to hurt the snails.
i hope you can find some joy and happiness in your life and so that you can feel better and be more kind. Kindness is a strength not many have but is deeply needed.
"As of April 20, 2026, there have been at least 114 to 115 mass shootings in the United States, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines these incidents as a minimum of four victims shot (injured or killed), excluding the shooter." Was this Mangione you mention one of those?
Now, look up the number of animals killed, per day...
I'd say "Kindness is deeply needed" indeed - or at least a little less hatred, if you can manage that...
We don't need anymore research for medical purposes, I think that you need to pull your head from your stupid ass and go holistic medicine instead. Use the natural resources on this planet to cure not use animals to test on. Hey, let's use you to research on for human medicine. Put you in a small cage 24/7 year after year, tell us how you feel..We look forward to hearing from you.
If a typical person agrees that a window can be broken to save a dog from a hot car, then what if it’s four dogs in a van? Or twenty dogs in a school bus? Or 200 dogs across ten school busses. What if the school bus had the windows covered and tools were needed to get in?
The scale and method should not matter. The action is legal simply because we agree it’s the right thing to do.
Not really. The law already handles this. It’s called the necessity defense.
A person can damage property to prevent imminent harm.
Wisconsin also has a good samaritan hot car law that allows breaking into a vehicle to save an animal. The standard is imminent risk and reasonable action, not how many lives are involved.
If you think any of that’s wrong, point to exactly where.
Here in Massachusetts, we protect dogs in this State. Our Boston Police would have shut Ridgeland Farm down long ago, with zero confrontation, and would have never treated harmless caring protesters the way Dane County has shown us. Hard to watch from a distance, and to even comprehend. Boils down to corruption, greed, control, power and basically the hate they hold in their heart, that these animals had absolutely nothing to do with.
In Massachusetts, if a family is abusing a child in the home, the authorities show up and remove the child from the abusers. Its called DCF. Maybe you should call DCF to go in and remove the dogs who are being abused in RIDGELAND FARM HOUSE OF ABUSE.
So much love, respect, strength and support to you Wayne, as you risk your freedom and even your life time and again to do what all the rest of us can only dream of having the courage and strength to do.
My sentiments exactly. And I was rolling my eyes as I read that he needs to slaughter deer "in order to feed his family." Does the FBI not pay their agents enough to feed their families?!
Sweetheart, whether it's "new" or not, my comment pertained to the fact that this gentleman said he needed to slaughter the deer "in order to feed his family," which is what I was calling into question, the gentleman being an FBI agent, not a busboy. But perhaps you did not read that far, understandably.
we don't need to eat meat to get protein to live. That's a choice. There are many other far more healthy choices to live on that are far healthier for your family than the manufactured and addictive foods created by mankind for all raises money and convenience and dependency at the high expense of animals.
Beautiful Wayne! So proud of your tireless work to help the other animals. Maybe the hunter needed reminding he is also an animal and could be tortured or hurt by other human animals?
Excellent replies - I would question the intelligence of these ‘FBI officers’ Bit scary to think they are chasing real criminals- hope you are OK - we are thinking about you all and sending love and support ❤️
Amazing work Wayne, you are a true hero and inspiration! It’s sad how many people are believing the
Dane County Sheriff lies. I have an acquaintance who professes to have volunteered for last chance for Animals, and believe in total abolition of vivisection, and yet she believes the Dane County sheriff lies, and thinks that the rescuers were the ones that were violent!
who was violent? Looks to me and to lots of others Dane county Sheriff's are the abusive ones, hurting rescuers the way they did. Hey everyone another stupid person who still can't see the moral right to help these sweet dogs.
I agree that the Dane County sheriff station used excessive force, and we’re violent against the peaceful protesters and activist! As I said above, it’s a friend of mine that thought that the protesters and activist were being violent… I tried to explain to her and give links for more information and she would have none of it and even professors to supposedly be an abolitionist against vivisection
Well said. They don't even qualify to reason with you. Fuck those who sent them there and if they think Luigi Mangione is wrong then ask them who killed more people. The insurance companies who denied tests and treatments for those people who really need them and died because they got rejected or Luigi Mangione. They're just killing people in a different way.
Ok in that sense then there should be no capital punishment. An eye for an eye is what I believe and IDC what you think. You're entitled to your opinion and so am I and you're not the standard. I'm talking peacefully making a statement and you're calling people names so who's more violent
All I know is he denied way more claims than all of his predecessors and I hope you wouldn't have to deal with insurance companies in your lifetime. Being in healthcare field, we spend way more time trying to justify treatment with these dumb insurance companies than actually treating people.
What are you talking about? We're fighting with these insurance companies to get approval for treatments for the patients so their lives can be saved. I guess you have no clue and I'm just wasting my time here. Have a good life.
The comparison of a dog to an insect is infuriating. I love and respect all living beings. I don’t kill spiders or bugs in my home. However they are not the same. The officers said they would break a car window for a dog … would they break a car window for a spider? Of course not, they are not the same!!
Seems a pity that after the recent Walk for Peace, which was so respectfully escorted by police forces from many counties, this most sacred tenet of Buddhism is still an object of derision...
May all beings be free from resentment and conflict
May all beings be free from physical suffering
May all beings be free from mental suffering
May all beings be free from danger and may their bodies and their minds be at peace
Utopian maybe, transcendental definitely, but in reaching for the highest reality we lift ourselves..
My children feel that all life is equal to human life. They protect insects, invertebrates and arachnids at all costs and become furious with those who do not. It's a difficult issue, in the society we live in.... My kids are frequently upset. We are following your mission from Australia. Keep going Wayne, you're our hero!!
Dougy, have you been drinking? Or do you work at Ridglan or something? Why are you so upset by these comments?
He always comments like this. He is full of hatred. Probably had a terrible upbringing. He is the one FBI should be watching.
another good comment thank you for this. too funny
She doesn't sound full of hatred at all.
we are talking about Mr dougy
Of course not. You live in an echo chamber, which is why you've been brainwashed into thinking committing crimes is ok. Because some convicted felon that happens to be a lawyer said so
Don’t feed the TROLLS. Block the drooling mammal called “Dougy” and move on people.
love your comment.
You're right of course, but we all need a bit of light relief and Dougy is providing it for free.
He’s just a typical keyboard warrior defending cruelty, and making pathetic 100x over disproven arguments against kindness. Likely because he’s too idiotic to use his brain and can only follow along like a puppet and behave exactly how the money makers want him too. Not worth even responding to but I sometimes like to stomp on bugs …. Only the human kind of course.
That is a good one. you got me giggling on your comment...too funny. let's get dougy.
You and your questions are only pertinent to you Dougy. Have a lovely day/night.
Oh gosh.... You mean like an intolerant sociopath who can't scroll past a post that irritates him? What am I setting myself up for.
what are you afraid of? What do you fear?
The only joke here is you Dougy.
How is it a joke? Do you want to help the animals be free of abuse and intolerable living situations? How do you want to help the animals?
are you talking to us beagle lovers who want these dogs out of that facility or are you talking to dougy who is delusional?
Hey, if the animal rights movement "has become a joke" it is because of comments like yours and because the industries that exploit animals are fighting back by denigrating and trivialising animal rights and veganism with every statement they make.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then.... well, you know the rest. Just be a bit kinder, these people are the good ones, save your venom for the bad guys of the world.
yes we are laughing at dougy as he doesn't care to help these dogs. He's to enlightened by the fact that we trespassed. If trespassing is what needs to be done in order to save the dogs then that's what will be done. yes that's breaking the law like whoppie do.
Do you like animals? Do you like yourself?
love them all...wish they were all free from humans and how they are treated.
That comment tells me you are very much anti animal rights. People who care about animals care about all species, even our own sometimes dodgy human species... Most animal rights activists are vegan fta and care about sentient life, whatever form it takes. We need more people like that in the world if we want it to be a kinder and cleaner planet for every'one'. Why are you here on this issue Dougy?
This is not an intelligent argument Doug, it is one that is dreged up add infinitum by people who can't be bothered to make any changes at all.. Of course it is not possible to live on this planet without inflicting some damage, but it is definitely possible to limit the amount of damage you inflict... There is a saying that there is no such thing as a free lunch, which is very true, but you can limit your damage on the menu..
Dougy, I've just found out you can like your own comments! Go for it man, it's as close as you're going to get!
only one delusional is yourself DOUGY. What a name dougy. How old are you dougy your comment is down right stupid like yourself. dumb people in the world today just stupid
Let's all remember that Dougy wants this to be about him. He needs to fit in somewhere..we can listen Dougy. You amuse me
The "way it used to be"? do you mean kicking down doors, going in at night, trashing labs? Those days have gone, along with the slap on the wrist by kindly judges. Inordinate prison sentences and laws that say an ARA is a terrorist, that's why those days are over.
Even when Direct Action is not successful in rescuing animals, it is successful in bringing awareness to the public, which was always the aim of the ALF et al. Shock tactics don't work so much these days, because being shocked every day at the mess the world is in means people are immune to it.
Are you being racist or self-loathing when you speak of "white grandmas chasing dogs"? That is a trivialisation of animal rescue, something those who exploit animals are very good at doing. How do you know who was a grandma, or a grandad? How do you know who they are? What makes you better than them? What do YOU do (other than criticise)?
Old people (of whom I suspect you are one), young people, all who were willing to get out of their comfort zone and go to Ridglan on Saturday, knowing they might face violence, should be applauded and thanked by those of us who did not. They are NOT the enemy.
do you think its right to keep beagles in a 2x4 cage for life and torchure them? what do you think would be a good solution to better their lives? do you care about the dogs?
is there a reason you want to call people insulting names? does this make you feel better and more powerful? just curious?
Well that's rude, disgusting, and not helpful in any way.
Over and out!
Don't be silly, you stop the car and help the insect get to the other side... Just because you might accidentally injure or kill something that is too small or hidden to be seen, doesn't mean you should give up on everything.
Do you raise children to be as kind as they possibly can to all sentient life, or do you raise them to be kind only when it is convenient for them to be so?
Intelligent people have a balanced perspective; those who at least try to see the smaller picture, whilst being aware of the bigger one.
Dougy, Thanks for your concern about bugs. Larger mammals including us humans may unknowingly kill bugs just by moving around, but if we respect all life, we don’t knowingly do harm.
You (at best) are asserting that because a method has not been applied thoroughly and consistently, everywhere all the time, the method is itself suspect or even a failure. I would say that several practitioners of Animal Liberation see Wayne's work as a beginning on one front, that of wide, public acknowledgment, hope and engagement. His efforts make no claim of being the ultimate accomplishment.
can you clarify as to which you support? wayne or dougy? a little confused
Please look at the facts about animal testing- it is holding back science and medical research that you made need one day
BULLSHIT. LETS DO TESTING THEN ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY..SO IGNORANT YOU ARE AND ITS SAD THAT YOU BELIEVE AN ANIMAL, A DOG,.A CAT, ANY ANIMAL SHOULD BE USED TO TEST ON, ABUSED.AND TORTURED.?, JUST SO YOU MAY HAVE A MEDICINE ONE DAY TO CURE YOUR DISEASE?
what do you mean exactly?
Well done! It sounds like you gained the upper hand. It's hard to come up with a counter point to having compassion for all.
Why do you read his writing if you consider him an "idiot"? Appears you are an angry person who spits out bile. Why not spend your energy on something that you find worthwhile
You at best are asserting that because Wayne's method has not been applied everywhere all the time, his method is false and is a failure. Most Animal Liberationists, not as you portray them, wd acknowledge his work is just a beginning, succeeding on one important front, wide public acknowledgment, hope and engagement. This is a very large Cosmos we live in, by far surpassing Genesis 9:2 and 9:3. There is no reason to dismiss the change Wayne has made already in this human world and the larger Cosmos.
Trial and error Dougy, it's necessary in being successful. There's another option; just give up.
Tiny little person. Just think, none of us knew what a dipshit you were until you proved it.
I admire your dedication and commitment. Now we need the law to help those dogs
I have save many insects and animals. From snails and ants to squarrells, both a lizard and a mouse right out of a stray cats mouth. I rescued a snail from a little boy, pulling eyes off a snail, then gave him a lesson on snails lives and all life. He sat there he listened we talked for about a half an hour. And he apologized and then I heard him later telling other kids not to hurt the snails.
i hope you can find some joy and happiness in your life and so that you can feel better and be more kind. Kindness is a strength not many have but is deeply needed.
"As of April 20, 2026, there have been at least 114 to 115 mass shootings in the United States, according to the Gun Violence Archive, which defines these incidents as a minimum of four victims shot (injured or killed), excluding the shooter." Was this Mangione you mention one of those?
Now, look up the number of animals killed, per day...
I'd say "Kindness is deeply needed" indeed - or at least a little less hatred, if you can manage that...
You are an inspiration. Praying for you and all the sentient beings out there that need our love and protection. Love and solidarity!
Please look at the facts of animal testing - it is holding back science and medical research that you your family and friends may need one day
Totally wrong Pam.
Please get informed about how animal testing for humane drugs is ineffective:
Really, please do some research to bust this myth.
We don't need anymore research for medical purposes, I think that you need to pull your head from your stupid ass and go holistic medicine instead. Use the natural resources on this planet to cure not use animals to test on. Hey, let's use you to research on for human medicine. Put you in a small cage 24/7 year after year, tell us how you feel..We look forward to hearing from you.
what do you mean?
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We admire the fight. It is disturbing that in our society we have to argue animal abuse. They clearly have no compassion.
its all about money and control. its so disturbing.
Unfortunately it really is. But that is with all the animal trade.
If a typical person agrees that a window can be broken to save a dog from a hot car, then what if it’s four dogs in a van? Or twenty dogs in a school bus? Or 200 dogs across ten school busses. What if the school bus had the windows covered and tools were needed to get in?
The scale and method should not matter. The action is legal simply because we agree it’s the right thing to do.
Care to explain why?
Not really. The law already handles this. It’s called the necessity defense.
A person can damage property to prevent imminent harm.
Wisconsin also has a good samaritan hot car law that allows breaking into a vehicle to save an animal. The standard is imminent risk and reasonable action, not how many lives are involved.
If you think any of that’s wrong, point to exactly where.
Here in Massachusetts, we protect dogs in this State. Our Boston Police would have shut Ridgeland Farm down long ago, with zero confrontation, and would have never treated harmless caring protesters the way Dane County has shown us. Hard to watch from a distance, and to even comprehend. Boils down to corruption, greed, control, power and basically the hate they hold in their heart, that these animals had absolutely nothing to do with.
In Massachusetts, if a family is abusing a child in the home, the authorities show up and remove the child from the abusers. Its called DCF. Maybe you should call DCF to go in and remove the dogs who are being abused in RIDGELAND FARM HOUSE OF ABUSE.
So much love, respect, strength and support to you Wayne, as you risk your freedom and even your life time and again to do what all the rest of us can only dream of having the courage and strength to do.
👍 you are on the good side and you will always be protected Wayne❤️
Amen.
How horrible to come face to face with a deer hunter.
You are brilliant and I totally stand with you.
My sentiments exactly. And I was rolling my eyes as I read that he needs to slaughter deer "in order to feed his family." Does the FBI not pay their agents enough to feed their families?!
its a choice.
Sweetheart, whether it's "new" or not, my comment pertained to the fact that this gentleman said he needed to slaughter the deer "in order to feed his family," which is what I was calling into question, the gentleman being an FBI agent, not a busboy. But perhaps you did not read that far, understandably.
we don't need to eat meat to get protein to live. That's a choice. There are many other far more healthy choices to live on that are far healthier for your family than the manufactured and addictive foods created by mankind for all raises money and convenience and dependency at the high expense of animals.
Beautiful Wayne! So proud of your tireless work to help the other animals. Maybe the hunter needed reminding he is also an animal and could be tortured or hurt by other human animals?
Sort of like they had done the day before…
It's hard to deal with meatheads trying to put you away, getting paid by our government to put you away - with their scripted "gotcha" questions.
You answered correctly. (But they will try to twist it.)
Excellent replies - I would question the intelligence of these ‘FBI officers’ Bit scary to think they are chasing real criminals- hope you are OK - we are thinking about you all and sending love and support ❤️
Amazing work Wayne, you are a true hero and inspiration! It’s sad how many people are believing the
Dane County Sheriff lies. I have an acquaintance who professes to have volunteered for last chance for Animals, and believe in total abolition of vivisection, and yet she believes the Dane County sheriff lies, and thinks that the rescuers were the ones that were violent!
who was violent? Looks to me and to lots of others Dane county Sheriff's are the abusive ones, hurting rescuers the way they did. Hey everyone another stupid person who still can't see the moral right to help these sweet dogs.
I agree that the Dane County sheriff station used excessive force, and we’re violent against the peaceful protesters and activist! As I said above, it’s a friend of mine that thought that the protesters and activist were being violent… I tried to explain to her and give links for more information and she would have none of it and even professors to supposedly be an abolitionist against vivisection
I understand thanks for clarifying
Well said. They don't even qualify to reason with you. Fuck those who sent them there and if they think Luigi Mangione is wrong then ask them who killed more people. The insurance companies who denied tests and treatments for those people who really need them and died because they got rejected or Luigi Mangione. They're just killing people in a different way.
Ok in that sense then there should be no capital punishment. An eye for an eye is what I believe and IDC what you think. You're entitled to your opinion and so am I and you're not the standard. I'm talking peacefully making a statement and you're calling people names so who's more violent
All I know is he denied way more claims than all of his predecessors and I hope you wouldn't have to deal with insurance companies in your lifetime. Being in healthcare field, we spend way more time trying to justify treatment with these dumb insurance companies than actually treating people.
What are you talking about? We're fighting with these insurance companies to get approval for treatments for the patients so their lives can be saved. I guess you have no clue and I'm just wasting my time here. Have a good life.
The comparison of a dog to an insect is infuriating. I love and respect all living beings. I don’t kill spiders or bugs in my home. However they are not the same. The officers said they would break a car window for a dog … would they break a car window for a spider? Of course not, they are not the same!!
I totally agree. does a bug have a soul? I don't think so
What’s your problem Doug Why are you so mean
because he's another stupid idiot who has to nudge into pages like this to fight us on animal abuse. he was probably abused as a child
There’s nothing honest about what you say - just meanness - if you care about this then look at the scientific facts
all you speak is trash and nonsense
Seems a pity that after the recent Walk for Peace, which was so respectfully escorted by police forces from many counties, this most sacred tenet of Buddhism is still an object of derision...
May all beings be free from resentment and conflict
May all beings be free from physical suffering
May all beings be free from mental suffering
May all beings be free from danger and may their bodies and their minds be at peace
Utopian maybe, transcendental definitely, but in reaching for the highest reality we lift ourselves..
why are you.so stupid? mommy and daddy raise you that way?!!