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Bentham's Bulldog's avatar

I certainly agree that merely reducing a few nasty practices in the shrimp farming industry is not enough. But it's a good first step, and it raises the likelihood of greater progress https://sandcastlesblog.substack.com/p/radical-welfarist-moderate-abolitionist. Yes, some people have gotten pissed off about us, but that's true of any movement for animal welfare. It also got relatively favorable coverage from the daily show. It's controversial in the right way--it's getting people to think seriously about the moral status of shrimp.

You say the shrimpact people are wrong, but my sense is that basically all the shrimp welfare people agree that this isn't enough and that more should be done. I'm also not sure why you say that it "might be the worst PR move in the history of animal rights." My sense is that the PR has been pretty good--some have mocked us, but others have begun seriously thinking about the mistreatment of trillions of shrimp, which is a needed first step towards taking shrimp seriously.

(I'm not sure if I'm misreading this and the early claims are just sort of hyperbole which you go on to disagree with when you say nice things about efforts to improve shrimp welfare. I'm not sure, in other words, if you think the campaign has been bad, or just that it should go further).

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Jessica Miracola's avatar

Wait, you got married?!! Congratulations! (Sorry if old news, I somehow missed it!)

Thank you for another thought provoking stack ❤️

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