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Sorry, Wayne, but if Trump wins we all lose. He is the most dangerous man in the world right now (with Elon right on his heels).

Except for the deadly climate change happening right now, animal rights are my priority in this election. There is absolutely nothing in Don-old’s history that would lead me to conclude that animals would be better off with him as POTUS. NOTHING.

Trump would sit in front of you and eat a Rhinoburger while you talked to him about animal rights. He has no consideration for animals outside of eating them.

Kamala is going to win. Then we get active making our case to her. That’s the way it has to be, my friend.

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For an electric vehicles promoter, Musk is some hotrodder. He could be exposed by asking him what he'd do about oil companies' decades of lies; asking should Trump buy Zuckerberg's troves of personal data for his revenge plans; howdoes Musk feel about Manchin's coal craze?

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motherharp, the amount of compromising that the Dems had to do in order to get Manchin’s vote on critical legislation was staggering. Even if we were to lose his seat in West Virginia, it’s worth it just to get rid of that coal burning motherfucker.

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I'm sorry if I was vague or unclear. My point was as follows. Trump really put "billionaire" on the nightly news. It's significant that the financial alpha male -- Musk -- in our species is orbiting the bottom of his own pyramid. Musk is acting to temper, to lighten, and to support Trump's outrageous male supremacism. Musk, like a whole crowd of fakes beneath him, doesn't want to be subject to Harris and her goals for women. Possibly, he is hooked/cornered on his own macho, lab animal testing, pheromones. Another immediate connection to the "animal" world, so "distant" from these "civilised" humans. He is getting sucked into Trump's vortex of self-smudging. He is a menace, but reasoning will do more and more to expose him. Manchin is out; but if asked, will Musk further compromise and echo Trump's coal claims? And will his "clean energy" image be completely trashed so as to protect the Big Oil billionaires' men's club that "clean energy" has begun to dislodge? And how many of his X users' private info will he stand for Zuckerberg -- boxing threat enemy -- handling/peddling? If they get power, by all their indicators, just to distract people from their own corruption, they will start a sort of debonair national SUV driving lynch mob which will save workers at govt agencies like FEMA and NOAA and NIST for last. The more that can be done to reveal the unethical obsession with credit derived from speciesism towards other species and towards other humans, the better.

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