For adults that have not been indoctrinated into religion from childhood, they might be able to find faith and community in an organized religion or secular version of it. But adults and kids that have been indoctrinated and psychological scarred by the dogma of any and all organized religions are not living a life with a positove version of faith, but a faith based on fear (fear of going to hell, a literal hell after death) and/or not belonging to their family and community if they don't adhere to religious "traditions" that take away their free will.
I'm thinking there's something you need from somebody once and a while that you'd think twice about going to God in prayer about, which is well-illustrated by Bruce Willis and Madeleine Stowe in 1995 "Twelve Monkeys," at the part in the movie just before where Wallace the pimp bursts in upon them in the hotel room. Otherwise, I'd pose a question of what God must mean when we get such immense cretins as big tech bro Russell Vought put in charge of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau with the express purpose of delivering trauma to its beleaguered personnel-- https://govexec.com/workforce/2026/01/cfpb-staves-furloughs-after-recieving-funding-still-pushes-shut-itself-down-and-squeeze-staff/410765 .
Yes. Religion. God knows it's done the world well in the hands of the Right-Wingers who believe God gave man the world to use and abuse. The vast majority of Christians believe animals are given to many to eat, enslaved, torture and kill.
Religion made sacrosanct the complete domination of women for Orthodox Jews and muslims who adhere to Sharia Law. in Saudi Arabia, Wahabi muslims deny women the right to drive cars, step out on the street alone, shop, or even get on an airplane. And most Muslim countries behead gay people. As a gay woman I tend to have zero faith in religion.
I believe in the spirituality if nature. Pantheism. I am part PiiPaash native American. We have a matriarchal society. Only women own property. And to be “two spirit” ( gay, bi) is not only acceptable, but revered. We respect nature and my tribe along with several others recently granted legal.personhood status to the great Colorado river.
I disagree with you. Religion is almost always the means to make sacrosanct mans most base and hideous desires: slavery, racism, animal abuse, rape of pristine sacred land, domination of women, etc etc etc.
Question: do you see already established 'major' religions as having potential that rescue does not have, in terms of bringing regenerateness of self and world? I sense this is a recurring concern in your projections here. There are several sides to this which you know better than most people, obviously. Rescue, as direct action, has changed people's sense of their abilities, how much they don't have to consent to handmedown evils. Is it a matter of how many people and how fast? I think the robustness of the kernel your efforts have generated is more solid ground to work on. With the ramping up of societal problems with governments failing universally, conventional society scaling and timing are sources of anxiety. So rescue does look like an island of hope and sanity --- is this the 'religion' you're looking toward? Christianity and Buddhism clearly show motives of rescue but not as focussed as rescue on the plight of species subjected to species, like livestock and wildlife to humanity. Can you see bringing about focussing translations between Animal Rescue and Buddhism and Christianity as a plan... .? Those religions didn't focus on a living world as much as they on carrying a doctrine -- making disciples. To me, rescue is about the possible next world, a sanctuary/complex of sanctuaries where people have saved life in general. Religion is about relying on, linking back to, a source of goodness . . . Earth's biosphere pre eminently, but the biosphere is not just past, but future also.
OK well if you start a religion that puts animal welfare high on the priorities and leave "faith" off the list sight me up.
I'd like to point out that faith is more inherent to religions that became forms of population control. No need for faith when intelligent curiosity isn't a threat take Buddhism for example.
"You must have faith" to me almost always aligns with "do as your told and don't question authority"
For adults that have not been indoctrinated into religion from childhood, they might be able to find faith and community in an organized religion or secular version of it. But adults and kids that have been indoctrinated and psychological scarred by the dogma of any and all organized religions are not living a life with a positove version of faith, but a faith based on fear (fear of going to hell, a literal hell after death) and/or not belonging to their family and community if they don't adhere to religious "traditions" that take away their free will.
I'm thinking there's something you need from somebody once and a while that you'd think twice about going to God in prayer about, which is well-illustrated by Bruce Willis and Madeleine Stowe in 1995 "Twelve Monkeys," at the part in the movie just before where Wallace the pimp bursts in upon them in the hotel room. Otherwise, I'd pose a question of what God must mean when we get such immense cretins as big tech bro Russell Vought put in charge of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau with the express purpose of delivering trauma to its beleaguered personnel-- https://govexec.com/workforce/2026/01/cfpb-staves-furloughs-after-recieving-funding-still-pushes-shut-itself-down-and-squeeze-staff/410765 .
Yes. Religion. God knows it's done the world well in the hands of the Right-Wingers who believe God gave man the world to use and abuse. The vast majority of Christians believe animals are given to many to eat, enslaved, torture and kill.
Religion made sacrosanct the complete domination of women for Orthodox Jews and muslims who adhere to Sharia Law. in Saudi Arabia, Wahabi muslims deny women the right to drive cars, step out on the street alone, shop, or even get on an airplane. And most Muslim countries behead gay people. As a gay woman I tend to have zero faith in religion.
I believe in the spirituality if nature. Pantheism. I am part PiiPaash native American. We have a matriarchal society. Only women own property. And to be “two spirit” ( gay, bi) is not only acceptable, but revered. We respect nature and my tribe along with several others recently granted legal.personhood status to the great Colorado river.
I disagree with you. Religion is almost always the means to make sacrosanct mans most base and hideous desires: slavery, racism, animal abuse, rape of pristine sacred land, domination of women, etc etc etc.
I explored a similar question in an essay recently - this reminded me why I wrote it. https://ahlamk.substack.com/p/faith-without-a-framework-a-framework
Question: do you see already established 'major' religions as having potential that rescue does not have, in terms of bringing regenerateness of self and world? I sense this is a recurring concern in your projections here. There are several sides to this which you know better than most people, obviously. Rescue, as direct action, has changed people's sense of their abilities, how much they don't have to consent to handmedown evils. Is it a matter of how many people and how fast? I think the robustness of the kernel your efforts have generated is more solid ground to work on. With the ramping up of societal problems with governments failing universally, conventional society scaling and timing are sources of anxiety. So rescue does look like an island of hope and sanity --- is this the 'religion' you're looking toward? Christianity and Buddhism clearly show motives of rescue but not as focussed as rescue on the plight of species subjected to species, like livestock and wildlife to humanity. Can you see bringing about focussing translations between Animal Rescue and Buddhism and Christianity as a plan... .? Those religions didn't focus on a living world as much as they on carrying a doctrine -- making disciples. To me, rescue is about the possible next world, a sanctuary/complex of sanctuaries where people have saved life in general. Religion is about relying on, linking back to, a source of goodness . . . Earth's biosphere pre eminently, but the biosphere is not just past, but future also.
OK well if you start a religion that puts animal welfare high on the priorities and leave "faith" off the list sight me up.
I'd like to point out that faith is more inherent to religions that became forms of population control. No need for faith when intelligent curiosity isn't a threat take Buddhism for example.
"You must have faith" to me almost always aligns with "do as your told and don't question authority"