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Sarah Jane's avatar

Weren't you the one that brought lawsuits against vulnerable people that spoke out against abuses from your group and its members? Didn't you slander others? Who tf do you think you are? Does your narcissism blind you to the point that you forget yourself?

You may be able to con a bunch of old religious folks that are too kind to call you on your bs but the rest of the world sees you clearly (INCLUDING the author that did the piece on you this week). He knows this is just your next con. Trying to usurp churches and you don't even believe in a God. You are a clown 🤡

Hermes Grant's avatar

This explains why he refuses to atone for his sins against not only others but people fighting the same fight as him. Wayne, YOU, have been the nastiest at infighting and set animal rights back 30 years.

Max's avatar

Because not all of us are blinded.

DEBBIE DONAHUE-ZIA's avatar

Dear Wayne,

This really landed for me. Framing moral community around protecting the vulnerable rather than moral purity or infighting, feels badly needed right now.

The idea that animal rights as the next expansion of our moral circle makes a lot of sense.

Volunteering at three different animal shelters has shown me that care isn’t theoretical or performative. It’s messy, practical, and about showing up for beings who fully depend on us. There’s no moral purity there, just responsibility.

I also appreciate the reminder that this isn’t only about animals, but about who we choose to be. In humanity.

Choosing care over domination feels deeply lacking in humanity.

Anna Van Zee's avatar

I would like to see you all address the mass killing, the lies, and the animal abuse being committed by phony animal rescue groups such as PETA. Their rampant killing is documented fact. I wonder how many other "animal rights" groups are cut from the same cloth.

https://open.substack.com/pub/nathanwinograd/p/another-year-of-mass-killing-at-peta?utm_campaign=post-expanded-share&utm_medium=web

Carola's avatar

You need to read "Toxic Sludge is Good For You: Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry" by John Stauber (Author), Sheldon Rampton (Author), Mark Dowie (Introduction).

TABLE OF CONTENTS

Acknowledgments

Introduction: Torches of Liberty, by Mark Dowie

CHAPTERS

Burning Books Before They're Printed

The Art of the Hustle and the Science of Propaganda

Smokers' Hacks

Spinning the Atom

Spies For Hire

Divide and Conquer

Poisoning the Grassroots

The Sludge Hits the Fan

Silencing Spring

The Torturers' Lobby

All the News That's Fit to Print

Taking Back Your Own Back Yard

APPENDICES

PR Industry Leaders

The Clorox PR Crisis Plan

Suggested Reading

Notes

Index

Topics:

Public Relations [10]

Carola's avatar

Further information: https://consumerfreedom.com/ is a right-wing front group that attacks animal rights and PeTA. It was founded by a public relations specialist.

Radical Activism

PETA Admits: Vegan Diets Kill Animals

After years of harassing people with “meat is murder” messages, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) recently made a surprisingly honest admission: Vegan diets kill animals.

Posted January 20, 2023 at 5:28 pm

Joan DeMartin's avatar

Congratulations, Wayne! I'll look forward to reading the full article via my New Yorker subscription.

Holly's avatar

You and Animal Rights are on the online front page of the New Yorker!  You'll certainly have a large audience.  Well done!   

Carola's avatar

The problem isn't just our treatment of animals, but how we regard them (and why), as per this comment:

“Brute beasts, not having understanding and therefore not being persons, cannot have any rights. The conclusion is clear. They are not autocentric. They are of the number of THINGS, which are another’s: they are chattels, or cattle. We have no duties to them…. Nor are we bound to any anxious care to make [their] pain as little as may be. ***Brutes are THINGS in our regard: so far as they are useful to use, they exist for us, not for themselves; and we do right in using them unsparingly for our need and convenience….” Jesuit Joseph Rickaby

In law, animals are "property" in our regard. They are "resources" in our regard. So on.

Compare the above ideology with this one:

In a world where we usually measure animals by human standards, prize-winning author and MacArthur Fellow Carl Safina takes us inside their lives and minds, witnessing their profound capacity for perception, thought and emotion, showing why the word “it” is often inappropriate as we discover “who” they really are.

I wanted to know what they were experiencing, and why to us they feel so compelling, and so-close. This time I allowed myself to ask them the question that for a scientist was forbidden fruit: Who are you? - Carl Safina

Phillippa Law's avatar

beautifully piece I could not agree more but 1 Important ethological point Dogs were not domesticated or created by humans the co-evolved. I have written about this if you'd care to read it.

Please I am a bit fan of your work so please take this In the spirit of shared knowledge and love of animals that it is ment.

jprielip's avatar

WTF?! Who in Hell is ridglan paying off to continue torturing these dogs???

James Greene's avatar

You pose 'the vulnerable' in a 'moral community' finding protection at the hands of the strong in that community as a founding principle of religion. The Hollywood scriptwriters in 2005 War of the Worlds maybe see things differently, showing us as 'those refugees' coming out of the attack on the ferry boat and finding hope at the end when as survivors they are let be by all other survivors to go find where they might belong-- https://archive.org/details/the-coca-cola-kid-1985_202411 .